(Forgive me for not replying earlier, but I've been ill.)
I'm amused by the idea that being tied to a portcullis makes a man more attractive ;-)
What can I say? I like it when guys get tied up.
Rejecting an Erik who has evolved into a heroic badass with enormous testicles is punishable by great suffering.
(and doesn't that sum up a significant portion of fan-fiction right there?)
Pretty much. :P
An interesting point is that Susan Kay's Erik is written by a woman to appeal to women (and the female-dominant relationship between Leroux's Raoul and Christine was written by a man, though not to depict some epitome of romance...)
That sounds kinky. I approve!
Unfortunately, after everything I've heard about Kay!Erik, all I can think of when I try to picture him is a cross between a romance novel hero and James Cagney's character in White Heat. No thanks.
*giggles* "Masterful virgin" will never get old!
Nice analysis over the 'knight in shining armour' trope -- this is definitely in play, as witness all the comments of 'but Raoul doesn't need Christine the way that Erik does!'
Why, thank you!
Ironically, I personally find knights in shining armor much sexier than bad boys...
(And it does make me wonder if that's the appeal of LND-Raoul to me -- that he does need saving from himself. After all, I've analysed along the lines in the past of "Love Never Dies" flipping both men's roles... although it doesn't explain why the fangirls don't identify with LND-Raoul and I don't identify with the Phantom!)
Well, there's certainly no shame in that. I've felt similar things myself.
The fangirls presumably don't identify with LND!Raoul because he brought his problems on himself, whereas Erik couldn't help being born deformed. Why do you think you don't identify with the Phantom?
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Date: 2018-12-20 05:52 pm (UTC)I'm amused by the idea that being tied to a portcullis makes a man more attractive ;-)
What can I say? I like it when guys get tied up.
Rejecting an Erik who has evolved into a heroic badass with enormous testicles is punishable by great suffering.
(and doesn't that sum up a significant portion of fan-fiction right there?)
Pretty much. :P
An interesting point is that Susan Kay's Erik is written by a woman to appeal to women (and the female-dominant relationship between Leroux's Raoul and Christine was written by a man, though not to depict some epitome of romance...)
That sounds kinky. I approve!Unfortunately, after everything I've heard about Kay!Erik, all I can think of when I try to picture him is a cross between a romance novel hero and James Cagney's character in White Heat. No thanks.
*giggles* "Masterful virgin" will never get old!
Nice analysis over the 'knight in shining armour' trope -- this is definitely in play, as witness all the comments of 'but Raoul doesn't need Christine the way that Erik does!'
Why, thank you!
Ironically, I personally find knights in shining armor much sexier than bad boys...(And it does make me wonder if that's the appeal of LND-Raoul to me -- that he does need saving from himself. After all, I've analysed along the lines in the past of "Love Never Dies" flipping both men's roles... although it doesn't explain why the fangirls don't identify with LND-Raoul and I don't identify with the Phantom!)
Well, there's certainly no shame in that. I've felt similar things myself.
The fangirls presumably don't identify with LND!Raoul because he brought his problems on himself, whereas Erik couldn't help being born deformed. Why do you think you don't identify with the Phantom?